When debating chin up vs pull up which is better for back, the pull-up (overhand grip) provides about 20% more lat activation, making it technically superior for building a wide V-taper. However, that small difference is not the reason your back isn't growing. You're likely stuck because you're pulling with your arms, not your back. You yank yourself up, feel a massive pump in your biceps, and then wonder why your back looks the same after months of effort. The truth is, a poorly performed pull-up is just a bad chin-up. A well-performed chin-up, where you initiate with your lats, is a phenomenal back builder. The exercise choice matters far less than your technique. Until you learn to start the movement by pulling your shoulder blades down and back, you'll continue to train your arms and neglect the massive muscles of your upper back. This isn't about which exercise is 'better'; it's about learning how to make either exercise actually work for your back.
The tiny difference between a chin-up and a pull-up-rotating your hands about 2 inches so your palms face away from you-completely changes the mechanics of the lift and which muscles do the most work. Understanding this is the key to targeting your back effectively.
A pull-up uses a pronated (overhand) grip. This position forces your arms to move through a motion called shoulder adduction-bringing your elbows from out wide down towards your sides. This is the primary function of your latissimus dorsi (lats), the large, fan-shaped muscles that create back width. By using an overhand grip that's slightly wider than your shoulders, you put the lats in a mechanically advantageous position to be the prime mover. This is why pull-ups are the undisputed king for building a V-taper. The wider your grip, the more you isolate the lats, but go too wide and you'll limit your range of motion and risk shoulder injury. A grip about 1.5 times your shoulder width is the sweet spot.
A chin-up uses a supinated (underhand) grip. This position favors shoulder extension (bringing your elbows from in front of you down to your sides) and requires a massive amount of elbow flexion (bending your arm). This heavily recruits your biceps. While your lats are still working hard, your biceps are in a much stronger position to help, and for many people, they become the limiting factor. If your biceps are weaker than your back, you'll fail the set before your lats are fully stimulated. If your biceps are stronger, they can take over the movement, leaving your back underworked. Chin-ups are fantastic for building back thickness and massive biceps, but less optimal for pure back width compared to pull-ups.
The biggest mistake people make with both is initiating the pull with their arms. To fix this, hang from the bar and, before bending your arms at all, focus on pulling your shoulder blades down and back. Your body should rise an inch or two just from this motion. This is called scapular depression and retraction. Only then should you bend your arms and pull your chest to the bar. This single change forces your lats to fire first.
You now know the mechanical difference: pull-ups for width, chin-ups for biceps and thickness. But knowing this doesn't build muscle. Can you honestly say you're stronger on your pull-ups than you were 8 weeks ago? Do you know the exact reps and sets you did last month? If you can't answer that with a number, you're not training for progress; you're just exercising and hoping for the best.
Stop randomly doing pull-ups and start following a structured plan. This protocol is designed to build a powerful, wide back, regardless of your starting point. You will train your back twice a week on non-consecutive days (e.g., Monday and Thursday).
This is for you if you cannot complete 5 consecutive pull-ups with good form. The goal here is not to do pull-ups, but to build the strength required to do them.
This is for you if you can do 5-10 pull-ups. The goal is to increase your total work capacity.
This is for you if you can do 10+ pull-ups. The goal is to build top-end strength.
Progress isn't linear, and focusing on proper form will feel like a step backward at first. That's how you know it's working.
A grip slightly wider than your shoulders (about 1.5x shoulder-width) is ideal for most people. Going too wide shortens the range of motion and can stress the shoulder joints. Going too narrow (shoulder-width or less) turns the exercise into more of an arm and upper-trap movement.
The neutral (palms facing each other) grip is an excellent hybrid. It combines the shoulder adduction of a pull-up with the elbow flexion of a chin-up, hitting the lats and brachialis muscle effectively. Many find it's the most comfortable grip for their shoulders and elbows, making it a great primary lift.
For most people, training pull-ups and their variations 2 times per week is optimal for strength and muscle growth. This provides enough stimulus to force adaptation while allowing 48-72 hours for your back and biceps to fully recover. More is not always better; recovery is when you grow.
Use lifting straps strategically. If your grip strength fails before your back muscles do on heavy or high-rep sets, straps can help you get 1-2 more reps. This pushes your back harder. However, do not use them on warm-up sets or all your working sets, as this will neglect your grip strength development.
Feeling sharp pain or excessive strain in your biceps during an overhand pull-up often indicates your form is arm-dominant. Focus on the cue 'pull your elbows down to your pockets' and initiate with your shoulder blades. A slightly wider grip can also help shift the emphasis off the biceps and onto the lats.
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